So I'm looking at the preview of JLA #32, and there are a couple of things I noted whiel reading it.
First, what the hell, Black Canary? First she says she's "not that petty" and two or three panels later she's...well, petty.
Second, the Roll Call says that Red Arrow is "On Leave." Not sure whether that means he's maybe coming back, but that'd be okay (I mean, to have him be somewhere other than Titans).
Third, the first thing I liked about Dr. Light (the heroic one) was her crankiness. Glad to see that's still in play.
Apart from the questionable Dinah aspect, this looks pretty interesting. Still going to wait for the trade, but will certainly be picking it up if this continues.
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Friday, April 24, 2009
Wednesday, April 08, 2009
Confused and disappointed
Wait, wait, wait.
So the additional Justice League book is a mini, not an ongoing series?
I was sure I remembered it having been talked about as a second ongoing.
Geez, if the Avengers can do it...
So the additional Justice League book is a mini, not an ongoing series?
I was sure I remembered it having been talked about as a second ongoing.
Geez, if the Avengers can do it...
Saturday, March 28, 2009
So much for that decision (Spoilerage for JLA 31)
The comics arrived todsy, and I was surprised to see JLA 31 in the box (apparently I'd checked the box in error), but it was a pleasant surprise--only, if Dinah is disbanding the current JLA team because Hal is starting his own, does that mean that there won't be a point where there are two JLA books to buy (or not)?
Because I was kind of looking forward to that.
Even though I'm generally getting the current one as a trade.
Because I was kind of looking forward to that.
Even though I'm generally getting the current one as a trade.
Thursday, March 26, 2009
Double standard (spoilers for JLA 31)
There's a preview up of Justice League of America 31 at IGN, which is what the potential spoilers are for. I mean, if you avoid reading previews, which I'm sure someone does.
So in this scene, Black Canary calls Hal and Ollie together. They show up. She shows up. She punches Ollie.
It's more or less played for laughs, or at least no one in the scene seemed particularly bothered by the fact that Dinah just hit her husband.
They weren't sparring.
He wasn't wearing a Starro on his neck, or otherwise under mind control.
He did not appear to be threatening her in any way.
No, she hit him because she was mad at him.
Look, I recognize that superheroes probably don't mind getting hit as much as the rest of us would. And I realize that Ollie knows how to take a punch, and that Dinah could have pretty much taken his head off is she'd wanted to.
But. She hit her husband because she was angry with him.
Think about it--what if it was Ollie hitting Dinah because he was mad? Would that be cute? Funny? Understandable? Forgivable?
(For the answer to that question, ask Hank Pym...)
So in this scene, Black Canary calls Hal and Ollie together. They show up. She shows up. She punches Ollie.
It's more or less played for laughs, or at least no one in the scene seemed particularly bothered by the fact that Dinah just hit her husband.
They weren't sparring.
He wasn't wearing a Starro on his neck, or otherwise under mind control.
He did not appear to be threatening her in any way.
No, she hit him because she was mad at him.
Look, I recognize that superheroes probably don't mind getting hit as much as the rest of us would. And I realize that Ollie knows how to take a punch, and that Dinah could have pretty much taken his head off is she'd wanted to.
But. She hit her husband because she was angry with him.
Think about it--what if it was Ollie hitting Dinah because he was mad? Would that be cute? Funny? Understandable? Forgivable?
(For the answer to that question, ask Hank Pym...)
Thursday, March 19, 2009
One more comment on the current Justice League title
I'm not someone who tends to notice T&A in comics too much. (I'm actually rather a fan of Frank Cho--sure, his women have plenty of T and even more A, but they also have muscles and look pretty darn tough.)
However, there were times when I thought the book really ought to be called "The Adventures of Black Canary's Butt, Featuring the Justice League."
However, there were times when I thought the book really ought to be called "The Adventures of Black Canary's Butt, Featuring the Justice League."
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Best argument yet for waiting for the trade
I've just read the first two Justice League of America trades (I'm pretty sure that's all they've put out so far). I guess I've decided that, for this one, at this point, I'm definitely "waiting for the trade." I'd probably mind it less if it wasn't "wait for the hardcover, don't buy it because it's insanely pricey, and then wait for the trade."
Now, I actually did start getting this book in monthly form, so although I gave up on it relatively soon, I actually have read some of the stories before. And I will say that it's far easier to read them in a trade paperback. I know, of course, that this is a modern trend--the whole "writing for the trade" that leads readers to "waiting for the trade" in the first place. I don't necessarily have a problem with it.
However, one of the reasons I dropped the monthly in the first place was that I was finding it to be virtually unreadable on a monthly basis. I couldn't just read the latest book when it arrived and have it make sense--I'd frequently find myself wondering what the heck was going on. So I dropped it. But now that I've read it all at once? Now I can see the story and it's a much more cohesive story.
I will grant that this may have something to do with my own memory and attention span. But writing for the trade is a common practice, and there are plenty of titles that do likewise that I have never had any difficulty following. I don't think it's really an issue of complex storytelling, either--I've been reading Captain America for ages, a book featuring plenty of tight turns and ornate plot twists, and I've never had any problems keeping up. (I do buy the trades and the monthlies for that book, but it's not because I have to. It's because I want to read the story right away and also want to be able to reread it easily.)
Anyway, now I'm caught up on the Justice League. Well, no, actually I'm not--but someday I will be. Okay, no, actually I won't. But this way I'll enjoy the experience.
Now, I actually did start getting this book in monthly form, so although I gave up on it relatively soon, I actually have read some of the stories before. And I will say that it's far easier to read them in a trade paperback. I know, of course, that this is a modern trend--the whole "writing for the trade" that leads readers to "waiting for the trade" in the first place. I don't necessarily have a problem with it.
However, one of the reasons I dropped the monthly in the first place was that I was finding it to be virtually unreadable on a monthly basis. I couldn't just read the latest book when it arrived and have it make sense--I'd frequently find myself wondering what the heck was going on. So I dropped it. But now that I've read it all at once? Now I can see the story and it's a much more cohesive story.
I will grant that this may have something to do with my own memory and attention span. But writing for the trade is a common practice, and there are plenty of titles that do likewise that I have never had any difficulty following. I don't think it's really an issue of complex storytelling, either--I've been reading Captain America for ages, a book featuring plenty of tight turns and ornate plot twists, and I've never had any problems keeping up. (I do buy the trades and the monthlies for that book, but it's not because I have to. It's because I want to read the story right away and also want to be able to reread it easily.)
Anyway, now I'm caught up on the Justice League. Well, no, actually I'm not--but someday I will be. Okay, no, actually I won't. But this way I'll enjoy the experience.
Sunday, December 07, 2008
Seriously, I will.
So...how long do you think until Martian Manhunter returns?
I'll start buying Justice League of America if J'onn comes back and joins.
I'll start buying Justice League of America if J'onn comes back and joins.
Wednesday, December 03, 2008
Thursday, March 13, 2008
I (might) want this
Does anyone know whether the on-their-way Justice League International Volume 1 and Volume 2 have previously been published in trade form?
See, I've got two or three books featuring that era's League, which I like a lot. Just not enough to buy the same thing twice, you know?
But if it is material I don't already have, I definitely want it.
See, I've got two or three books featuring that era's League, which I like a lot. Just not enough to buy the same thing twice, you know?
But if it is material I don't already have, I definitely want it.
Saturday, April 14, 2007
Very brief thoughts on March's comics (Part 2) [Spoilers]
Cable and Deadpool #38
This is the one comic we get that everyone in the family reads. Lots of Deadpool love around here, not so much the Cable love. But that's all right, because this issue features no Cable whatsoever! Anyway. Never heard of Agent X before, but just enough backstory is given to make the story make sense, so no problem there, although the twelve-year-old was sad to see the last of Tiny Deadpool.
I have what is probably an unhealthy fondness for those slice-of-life bits with regard to Hydra or AIM or SHIELD. (Which is one reason I love Irredeemable Ant-Man.) Particularly fun was Bob--whose blog I'd love to see (and am surprised that some enterprising Deadpool fan hasn't set up a Myspace for him). I hope he makes it through the storyline.
Green Lantern Corps #10
This issue is heavy on the Soranik Natu, and since she's the main reason I read it, that makes it a good issue in my book. I have not thus far been as fond of Iolande, but I think I'm going to enjoy the dynamic between the two women.
Also happy to see Isamot again, though I would have liked to see how the confrontation (if any) between him and Qalyra played out.
And I know that I ought to be gaining greater appreciation for Guy Gardner, but so far it isn't happening. I don't dislike him, but I'm not a convert. Sorry. :)
Irredeemable Ant-Man #6
Still one of the first books I read every month (right after Captain America and the various Avengers titles). So. We get to find out what, exactly, happened to Mitch's face (and I'm so glad that it had nothing to do with formic acid). And a next issue I'm looking forward to a lot (one would think that upon discovering he had hitched a ride with Ms. Marvel, Eric would have gotten out of her purse as quickly as possible, but apparently not). Fun, evil stuff.
Justice League of America #6
Well, it's off my get-it-every-month list; I plan to get it in trade form from now on, and probably only that after glancing through the book. This first story arc really didn't do it for me, possibly because so much of it was focused on Red Tornado, who has never interested me much. That wouldn't be a problem if the story itself had drawn me in more, or if it had sparked my interest in him, but it didn't.
Justice Society of America #4
This title, on the other hand, succeeds in making me care about characters I really know nothing about. (So it can be done.) Somehow the family relationships are explained in such a way that I understand what's going on, while not interrupting the flow of the story. That's pretty impressive. In fact, I'm enjoying pretty much everything about this book, which is kind of a surprise to me, but a pleasant one.
This is the one comic we get that everyone in the family reads. Lots of Deadpool love around here, not so much the Cable love. But that's all right, because this issue features no Cable whatsoever! Anyway. Never heard of Agent X before, but just enough backstory is given to make the story make sense, so no problem there, although the twelve-year-old was sad to see the last of Tiny Deadpool.
I have what is probably an unhealthy fondness for those slice-of-life bits with regard to Hydra or AIM or SHIELD. (Which is one reason I love Irredeemable Ant-Man.) Particularly fun was Bob--whose blog I'd love to see (and am surprised that some enterprising Deadpool fan hasn't set up a Myspace for him). I hope he makes it through the storyline.
Green Lantern Corps #10
This issue is heavy on the Soranik Natu, and since she's the main reason I read it, that makes it a good issue in my book. I have not thus far been as fond of Iolande, but I think I'm going to enjoy the dynamic between the two women.
Also happy to see Isamot again, though I would have liked to see how the confrontation (if any) between him and Qalyra played out.
And I know that I ought to be gaining greater appreciation for Guy Gardner, but so far it isn't happening. I don't dislike him, but I'm not a convert. Sorry. :)
Irredeemable Ant-Man #6
Still one of the first books I read every month (right after Captain America and the various Avengers titles). So. We get to find out what, exactly, happened to Mitch's face (and I'm so glad that it had nothing to do with formic acid). And a next issue I'm looking forward to a lot (one would think that upon discovering he had hitched a ride with Ms. Marvel, Eric would have gotten out of her purse as quickly as possible, but apparently not). Fun, evil stuff.
Justice League of America #6
Well, it's off my get-it-every-month list; I plan to get it in trade form from now on, and probably only that after glancing through the book. This first story arc really didn't do it for me, possibly because so much of it was focused on Red Tornado, who has never interested me much. That wouldn't be a problem if the story itself had drawn me in more, or if it had sparked my interest in him, but it didn't.
Justice Society of America #4
This title, on the other hand, succeeds in making me care about characters I really know nothing about. (So it can be done.) Somehow the family relationships are explained in such a way that I understand what's going on, while not interrupting the flow of the story. That's pretty impressive. In fact, I'm enjoying pretty much everything about this book, which is kind of a surprise to me, but a pleasant one.
Friday, January 05, 2007
The December '06 Comics [Spoilers]
All-New Atom #6
Not as many giggles provided as in previous issues, but still a lot of fun. Good action sequences, and I particularly liked the hard edge Ryan showed in defeating the villain by stealing his control belt and leaving him trapped in shrunken form. Damn! This being comics, I'm sure he'll be back somehow but for now, just wow. Also the end of this story arc, and I'm absolutely looking forward to seeing what happens next.
Birds of Prey #101
This book is becoming a real education on obscure female DC heroes--which is fine, because they're generally introduced with a reasonable amount of context. The idea of a the group consisting of a small core group and a larger number of "temps" is a good one--with the varied cases the Birds take on, having the option of greater specialization is a good one.
Captain America #24
Really, this is about the first issue of Cap since Brubaker took it over that I really haven't enjoyed all that much. (Damn Civil War...) I liked Sharon quite a bit in this issue, particular the fact that while she may find the pro-reg side's actions more reprehensible, she's not giving Cap and his side a walk either. Can I wait Civil War out? We'll see... (I mostly liked it at first, in the Civil War-specific books, but it's taken over so many other books that I've gotten pretty annoyed.)
Green Lantern #15
I did not care for this issue and I have taken the title off my get list.
Ion #8 and #9
I am starting to like this series (2/3 of the way through it!). Liking the characterization of Kyle as somewhat immature, reflecting the grasp he feels he has on his new powers. Am I the only one who thinks that this new power level may not last much beyond this series? My second-favorite title of the month.
Iron Man #14
Poor Pepper (although I was glad to see her portrayed something like she used to be back in the Silver Age before she was glamorized--haven't seen those freckles in years, have we?). An uncharacteristic treatment of Cap. A sympathetic treatment of Tony (well, it is his book, after all!). So...how long is it until Civil War is over? Iron Man used to be one of my favorite books...
Irredeemable Ant-Man #3
Wow, a book I am reading entirely because of the story! It's certainly novel to be reading a comic and hoping for the protagonist to get his. Just how much lower can this guy go? So far it's keeping me coming back.
Justice League of America #4 and #5
Still liking Black Canary. (Although wondering what's up with her being active in the JLA when she left Birds of Prey to take care of that little girl...) Still waiting to like Red Tornado. Still planning to get this book although that could change.
Justice Society of America #1
I never read the old version of this title, but at this point I certainly plan on staying with this one for a while--good introduction to characters I don't know (although I'm not sure about Ma Hunkle--from what I've read this is a big change--does/did she have powers in the new continuity?) The twelve-year-old likes it, Stargirl being one of her favorite characters. She prefers it to the current Justice League book, and I have to agree with her on that point.
Ms. Marvel #10
Holy crap! Now, I like Carol. I'm predisposed to like Carol, having read her first when I was a teen. Hell, I still like Carol--if she takes this opportunity to think about what she should really be aspiring to as a hero. There's a really good place now for that to be explored, and I hope this book does that next and doesn't just leave the issue hanging.
Secret Six #6
The last issue of the mini-series, sadly. And what a way to get rid of the Hatter! I honestly never saw that coming--although Ragdoll's remarkable short-sightedness in making an enemy of Tetch was not out of character. Please, DC, may we have some more?
She-Hulk #12
Very little She-Hulk in this issue, actually. The revelation that while She-Hulk's love for husband John ended when Andy ended his unwitting influence, his did not--really sad, almost made me feel for John (a character I really haven't cared for in this book). Andy's story, I found less compelling, but I hope he isn't gone for too long.
Winter Soldier: Winter Kills
My favorite read this month. Although far lighter in tone than I expected (I figured there'd be a lot more angst, doom and gloom than there is), I think it still supplies a realistic look at the Winter Soldier, who is above all a practical sort of guy and only somewhat given to introspection. Best parts? The guest appearance of the Young Avengers, who we haven't seen in their own title in far too long. The World War II scenes (apart from the eyebrows on just about everyone--whoever drew those bits provided all the characters with some truly scary eyebrow action!). The scene with Namor was perfect. Seriously, I can't say enough nice things about this book. (Particularly since my Cap fix this month was a bit wanting...) So is WS going to get his own title at some point? I'd buy it.
Books I'm not discussing this month even though I've read them:
Not as many giggles provided as in previous issues, but still a lot of fun. Good action sequences, and I particularly liked the hard edge Ryan showed in defeating the villain by stealing his control belt and leaving him trapped in shrunken form. Damn! This being comics, I'm sure he'll be back somehow but for now, just wow. Also the end of this story arc, and I'm absolutely looking forward to seeing what happens next.
Birds of Prey #101
This book is becoming a real education on obscure female DC heroes--which is fine, because they're generally introduced with a reasonable amount of context. The idea of a the group consisting of a small core group and a larger number of "temps" is a good one--with the varied cases the Birds take on, having the option of greater specialization is a good one.
Captain America #24
Really, this is about the first issue of Cap since Brubaker took it over that I really haven't enjoyed all that much. (Damn Civil War...) I liked Sharon quite a bit in this issue, particular the fact that while she may find the pro-reg side's actions more reprehensible, she's not giving Cap and his side a walk either. Can I wait Civil War out? We'll see... (I mostly liked it at first, in the Civil War-specific books, but it's taken over so many other books that I've gotten pretty annoyed.)
Green Lantern #15
I did not care for this issue and I have taken the title off my get list.
Ion #8 and #9
I am starting to like this series (2/3 of the way through it!). Liking the characterization of Kyle as somewhat immature, reflecting the grasp he feels he has on his new powers. Am I the only one who thinks that this new power level may not last much beyond this series? My second-favorite title of the month.
Iron Man #14
Poor Pepper (although I was glad to see her portrayed something like she used to be back in the Silver Age before she was glamorized--haven't seen those freckles in years, have we?). An uncharacteristic treatment of Cap. A sympathetic treatment of Tony (well, it is his book, after all!). So...how long is it until Civil War is over? Iron Man used to be one of my favorite books...
Irredeemable Ant-Man #3
Wow, a book I am reading entirely because of the story! It's certainly novel to be reading a comic and hoping for the protagonist to get his. Just how much lower can this guy go? So far it's keeping me coming back.
Justice League of America #4 and #5
Still liking Black Canary. (Although wondering what's up with her being active in the JLA when she left Birds of Prey to take care of that little girl...) Still waiting to like Red Tornado. Still planning to get this book although that could change.
Justice Society of America #1
I never read the old version of this title, but at this point I certainly plan on staying with this one for a while--good introduction to characters I don't know (although I'm not sure about Ma Hunkle--from what I've read this is a big change--does/did she have powers in the new continuity?) The twelve-year-old likes it, Stargirl being one of her favorite characters. She prefers it to the current Justice League book, and I have to agree with her on that point.
Ms. Marvel #10
Holy crap! Now, I like Carol. I'm predisposed to like Carol, having read her first when I was a teen. Hell, I still like Carol--if she takes this opportunity to think about what she should really be aspiring to as a hero. There's a really good place now for that to be explored, and I hope this book does that next and doesn't just leave the issue hanging.
Secret Six #6
The last issue of the mini-series, sadly. And what a way to get rid of the Hatter! I honestly never saw that coming--although Ragdoll's remarkable short-sightedness in making an enemy of Tetch was not out of character. Please, DC, may we have some more?
She-Hulk #12
Very little She-Hulk in this issue, actually. The revelation that while She-Hulk's love for husband John ended when Andy ended his unwitting influence, his did not--really sad, almost made me feel for John (a character I really haven't cared for in this book). Andy's story, I found less compelling, but I hope he isn't gone for too long.
Winter Soldier: Winter Kills
My favorite read this month. Although far lighter in tone than I expected (I figured there'd be a lot more angst, doom and gloom than there is), I think it still supplies a realistic look at the Winter Soldier, who is above all a practical sort of guy and only somewhat given to introspection. Best parts? The guest appearance of the Young Avengers, who we haven't seen in their own title in far too long. The World War II scenes (apart from the eyebrows on just about everyone--whoever drew those bits provided all the characters with some truly scary eyebrow action!). The scene with Namor was perfect. Seriously, I can't say enough nice things about this book. (Particularly since my Cap fix this month was a bit wanting...) So is WS going to get his own title at some point? I'd buy it.
Books I'm not discussing this month even though I've read them:
- 52, because I never seem to have much to say about any particular issue.
- Earth's Mightiest Heroes, because I'm just not enjoying it enough to want to think any more about it.
Monday, January 01, 2007
Top Ten Things I Enjoyed Reading in 2006
1. Captain America
This book is so much better than I ever remember it having been before! The Winter Soldier storyline was phenomenal, the Red Menace arc almost as good, and although the need to include Civil War is certainly hurting the book, I fully expect Brubaker to pull it back to its former level of excellence when CW is over.
2. Secret Six
A miniseries, I know, and now over, but I fully enjoyed this title while it lasted and I'm hoping for an ongoing. Every so often the sympathetic portrayals make you forget that these are (on the whole) not good guys, but someone always reminds you. There's always something surprising, and always something you want more of.
3. Identity Crisis
Well, it was new to me, and one of the first things I picked up for my introduction to DC Comics. It's not the kind of book you can really say you enjoy, but it was spellbinding (not to mention a good reintro to comic characters I hadn't read in 30+ years). I read it in a sitting.
4. Morrison-era JLA Trades
I fully enjoyed every page of the ten or twelve books I picked up; they were always entertaining, action-filled yet character-driven, and (again) a good overview of some of DC's iconic characters. I hope I enjoy the new Justice League title even half as much.
5. Winter Soldier: Winter Kills
Although I didn't like this quite as much as I expected to, it's still making the list. It's a good story, good character piece, and a good indication of just where the WS is going to locate himself in the Marvel Universe (something I've been wondering about).
6. The All-New Atom
Full of Silver Age style fun, this book has been one of my favorites since it came out, and I haven't been disappointed yet with the mix of humor and action. I know that we can't necessarily count on Ryan staying around for the long run, but I hope he's here for a while.
7. Giffen-era Justice League Trades
These are awesome--funny as hell, but well-plotted and consistently characterized. I wish more books were available.
8. Green Lantern Trades and Back Issues
I was never all that big a GL fan back when I was a kid, apart from really liking the concept of the ring. But now? Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, an interesting and complex Hal Jordan? I've really been enjoying the catch-up. (And a big thank you to those of you who pointed me in that direction, you probably know who you are. :))
9. Young Avengers
Um, did they have an issue come out in 2006? It's been so long, you know... In any case, it was consistently a good read, reasonably well-plotted, good characterization, plenty of twists and turns, a bright spot in Marvel's currently-not-at-its-best lineup.
10. Birds of Prey
The twelve-year-old wanted to try this one, and so we did, and we all like it a lot. Humor and action and Strong Female Characters. It's not at the top of my reading pile every month but it's fairly close to it.
This book is so much better than I ever remember it having been before! The Winter Soldier storyline was phenomenal, the Red Menace arc almost as good, and although the need to include Civil War is certainly hurting the book, I fully expect Brubaker to pull it back to its former level of excellence when CW is over.
2. Secret Six
A miniseries, I know, and now over, but I fully enjoyed this title while it lasted and I'm hoping for an ongoing. Every so often the sympathetic portrayals make you forget that these are (on the whole) not good guys, but someone always reminds you. There's always something surprising, and always something you want more of.
3. Identity Crisis
Well, it was new to me, and one of the first things I picked up for my introduction to DC Comics. It's not the kind of book you can really say you enjoy, but it was spellbinding (not to mention a good reintro to comic characters I hadn't read in 30+ years). I read it in a sitting.
4. Morrison-era JLA Trades
I fully enjoyed every page of the ten or twelve books I picked up; they were always entertaining, action-filled yet character-driven, and (again) a good overview of some of DC's iconic characters. I hope I enjoy the new Justice League title even half as much.
5. Winter Soldier: Winter Kills
Although I didn't like this quite as much as I expected to, it's still making the list. It's a good story, good character piece, and a good indication of just where the WS is going to locate himself in the Marvel Universe (something I've been wondering about).
6. The All-New Atom
Full of Silver Age style fun, this book has been one of my favorites since it came out, and I haven't been disappointed yet with the mix of humor and action. I know that we can't necessarily count on Ryan staying around for the long run, but I hope he's here for a while.
7. Giffen-era Justice League Trades
These are awesome--funny as hell, but well-plotted and consistently characterized. I wish more books were available.
8. Green Lantern Trades and Back Issues
I was never all that big a GL fan back when I was a kid, apart from really liking the concept of the ring. But now? Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, an interesting and complex Hal Jordan? I've really been enjoying the catch-up. (And a big thank you to those of you who pointed me in that direction, you probably know who you are. :))
9. Young Avengers
Um, did they have an issue come out in 2006? It's been so long, you know... In any case, it was consistently a good read, reasonably well-plotted, good characterization, plenty of twists and turns, a bright spot in Marvel's currently-not-at-its-best lineup.
10. Birds of Prey
The twelve-year-old wanted to try this one, and so we did, and we all like it a lot. Humor and action and Strong Female Characters. It's not at the top of my reading pile every month but it's fairly close to it.
Monday, December 04, 2006
The November '06 Comics [Spoilers]
52 26-29, All-New Atom #5, Birds of Prey #100, Earth's Mightiest Heroes 2 #1 and 2, Iron Man #13, Irredeemable Ant-Man #2, JLA Classified #29, Justice League of America #3, Moon Knight #6, Ms. Marvel #9, New Avengers #25, Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes #24, >Wonder Woman #3
This month's comic discussion is focused on the chopping block--which books stay? Which books go? Which have job security and which had best not slip up or "kkkkhh"? Other than that, they're short and shallow, sorry. If I have deeper thoughts on any of these books, I'll write a separate entry.
52 #26
I was pleased to see the entire Sivana clan here, having read about the first two Sivana kids in some book on the history of comics. Since I don't know the history that well, I've no idea if the characterization of the elder siblings (Beautia and Magnificus) reflects the originals (I believe they came first in the Captain Marvel books). I will say that once again my favorite bits are those on the mad scientists' island. At this point, though, my main thing with the 52 books is whether or not I see anything in them that will get me to start adding them to the get list again. So far, no. Going, going, gone.
52 #27
So why is it that the Spectre does not currently have a human host, anyway? I've been losing interest in the Question/Montoya storyline, although I expect that to change. The Ralph story, which I thought had paled a bit, was better this time and maintains an uncertainty that I like. The origin in back, which generally I haven't cared for, was useful this time.
52 #28
Well, I still like Starfire, because I almost always like Starfire. And there was a bit more of Batwoman, although still not enough to really give us a sense of her. And I'd have expected that by now I'd care more about the Question--enough to care if he lives or dies, in any case, and so far I don't. I do realize that a weekly book is more likely than most to be spotty in terms of quality.
52 #29
The Luthor-created hero storyline still fails to compel, although it's not wholly uninteresting. And the mad scientist island storyline is still the most interesting. And I still haven't gone to add the next month's issues to my order. I guess they have another month to win me back! :)
All-New Atom #5
Still a lot of fun. I'm not quite getting why adult college professor Ryan Cho has to get his dad to let him stay, but when that's the biggest problem I have as far as suspended disbelief goes, it's not a bad thing. Ryan is fun. Panda is fun. Most of the villains are fun. Ryan's dad--not so fun, but that's all right. Keeper.
Birds of Prey #100
I'm still enjoying this title a lot. I guess I don't have to miss Black Canary too much since apparently she's going to be in the new Justice League book. And I'm happy to see Barda, and I'm developing an appreciation for Zinda, and I have no idea who Manhunter is although I guess she has her own book? Fun book, as always. Definite keeper.
Earth's Mightiest Heroes 2 #1 and 2
When I saw this in the solicits I was thrilled, because I'd so enjoyed the first series. But I'm really disappointed this time and I'm not entirely sure why. While I liked the first one very much, I don't think it was good enough that another similar series would inevitably pale by comparison, but that's what seems to be happening here. Right now I'll just assume that it's going to get better, but damn it, this was supposed to be the good stuff from Marvel this month... Keeper only because it's a bimonthly series and I've already ordered it all.
Green Lantern #14
This might just be my first copy of Green Lantern ever. It was all right. Not great, but all right. I have a few more issues on order, and then I can make up my mind. On the fence, tipping toward off.
Green Lantern Corps #6
On the whole it has been Soranik Natu who has been carrying this book for me, but I guess I've also been picking up on some of the other Lanterns as well because I really want to know what Isamot is going to do next issue! Currently on the keep list.
Iron Man #13
Well, it was nice to read a story with IM in it and not spend the whole time thinking to myself "Okay, now how are they going to salvage Tony after this?...wait, what's he doing now? gah!" which has been the usual thing recently. At least you see him thinking here. But guys, please don't kill Happy Hogan, dammit! Keeper because of the nostalgia factor.
Irredeemable Ant-Man #2
The best thing about this book is that it's unpredictable. (And I'm still enjoying the notion that there are SHIELD agents and then there are SHIELD agents--that while many are in fact Bondian types, there are also a number that are the equivalent of mall security as far as skill and training go...and while I'm not sure that idea works that well on the whole, in this case it's a hoot.) Not as good as issue #1 but still on the get list.
JLA Classified #29
I don't get this book regularly, but I do when the story featues a lineup I like. Right now it's featuring the Morrison era League, so I'm getting this story arc. (I'd also happily get books about the "Not Necessaily the Justice League" era League but I'm guessing those won't be forthcoming.) Not a bad story if a bit political for my usual preferences, but since I don't yet know if I'll like the new League much, I'm enjoying it. I don't think I'm getting the next arc but I'll keep an eye open for the next arc that interests me.
Justice League of America #3
At this point this is a keeper because I think I might like it at some point, not so much because I love it now. Except for the awesomeness of Black Canary, which is always to love, even if I can't look at her underwear riding up in back (that's not a thong, it's a wedgie) without cringing. Hawkgirl hasn't done much yet and is still far more interesting than in her own book. And while I suspect I'm supposed to like the Red Tornado by now, so far I can't seem to muster much interest. I gather he was more interesting in the old days? Still a keeper but a bit disappointing.
Moon Knight #6
This one's still got me, despite it being not exactly the sort of book I usually go for. (I've got the Essential Moon Knight in the other room, have not read it yet and not sure whether I should--would it complement or interfere with my understanding of this series?) In any case, I like that there's always some point at which I'm not quite sure what's going on. I like the sense of faith that's present in Marc's interactions with Khonshu (regardless of how--or whether--those are taking place). I'm still liking this book. Keeper.
Ms. Marvel #9
Cool thing: Rogue and Ms. Marvel are on the verge of a misunderstanding-based battle, and they don't fight, they figure out what the deal is (two Carols, one from an alternate universe) and go from there. Seriously, how often do you see that--super-powered beings thinking first and hitting only later if necessary? Other cool thing: Carol has been focusing recently on how much better things could have been for her. It's the source of her recent drive. But here, in the alternate Carol, she sees as well how much worse they could have been as well--how she could have failed but did not. At this point her reaction is disgust with the alternate Carol, who represents a far different "could have been." I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out in future issues. And! Not a Civil War issue! Keeper, obviously.
New Avengers #25
Too much Civil War, not enough actual New Avengers. And a way annoying bit where Maria Hill talks about how damn incompetent she is. No, I don't like her (you're not supposed to), but this is a really uncomfortable turn of events, making her so explicitly an unworthy adversary. If I weren't such a die-hard Avengers fan, and if I weren't hoping that I see the light at the end of the tunnel...but I am and I do, so this one is still a keeper. They're making it damn hard, though.
Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes #24
This might be the last issue we get, I'm not sure, although I suppose if the twelve-year-old decides she wants it we'll get it. (She's decided she wants Teen Titans as TPBs so that's off the list of monthlies. I'm glad to see that Supergirl is back in the group, although less glad to see that she's apparently being portrayed as not very bright. (Or is that because her super-brain doesn't work under a red sun?) As for me, it's an okay book, but I'm clearly not in its intended audience and I don't see that changing. Currently gone.
Wonder Woman #3
The twelve-year-old hasn't read this one yet, but once she has, her vote will decide whether we keep getting it. I quite like the art, but the story hasn't drawn me in yet. Although I want to like this book, right now it's off the keep-at-all-costs list, though not off the get list entirely.
Not in this month's shipment and missed: Captain America and Ion.
Possibly adding to the get list: New Excalibur. Also Justice Society of America, mainly because the twelve-year-old really likes Stargirl.
This month's comic discussion is focused on the chopping block--which books stay? Which books go? Which have job security and which had best not slip up or "kkkkhh"? Other than that, they're short and shallow, sorry. If I have deeper thoughts on any of these books, I'll write a separate entry.
52 #26
I was pleased to see the entire Sivana clan here, having read about the first two Sivana kids in some book on the history of comics. Since I don't know the history that well, I've no idea if the characterization of the elder siblings (Beautia and Magnificus) reflects the originals (I believe they came first in the Captain Marvel books). I will say that once again my favorite bits are those on the mad scientists' island. At this point, though, my main thing with the 52 books is whether or not I see anything in them that will get me to start adding them to the get list again. So far, no. Going, going, gone.
52 #27
So why is it that the Spectre does not currently have a human host, anyway? I've been losing interest in the Question/Montoya storyline, although I expect that to change. The Ralph story, which I thought had paled a bit, was better this time and maintains an uncertainty that I like. The origin in back, which generally I haven't cared for, was useful this time.
52 #28
Well, I still like Starfire, because I almost always like Starfire. And there was a bit more of Batwoman, although still not enough to really give us a sense of her. And I'd have expected that by now I'd care more about the Question--enough to care if he lives or dies, in any case, and so far I don't. I do realize that a weekly book is more likely than most to be spotty in terms of quality.
52 #29
The Luthor-created hero storyline still fails to compel, although it's not wholly uninteresting. And the mad scientist island storyline is still the most interesting. And I still haven't gone to add the next month's issues to my order. I guess they have another month to win me back! :)
All-New Atom #5
Still a lot of fun. I'm not quite getting why adult college professor Ryan Cho has to get his dad to let him stay, but when that's the biggest problem I have as far as suspended disbelief goes, it's not a bad thing. Ryan is fun. Panda is fun. Most of the villains are fun. Ryan's dad--not so fun, but that's all right. Keeper.
Birds of Prey #100
I'm still enjoying this title a lot. I guess I don't have to miss Black Canary too much since apparently she's going to be in the new Justice League book. And I'm happy to see Barda, and I'm developing an appreciation for Zinda, and I have no idea who Manhunter is although I guess she has her own book? Fun book, as always. Definite keeper.
Earth's Mightiest Heroes 2 #1 and 2
When I saw this in the solicits I was thrilled, because I'd so enjoyed the first series. But I'm really disappointed this time and I'm not entirely sure why. While I liked the first one very much, I don't think it was good enough that another similar series would inevitably pale by comparison, but that's what seems to be happening here. Right now I'll just assume that it's going to get better, but damn it, this was supposed to be the good stuff from Marvel this month... Keeper only because it's a bimonthly series and I've already ordered it all.
Green Lantern #14
This might just be my first copy of Green Lantern ever. It was all right. Not great, but all right. I have a few more issues on order, and then I can make up my mind. On the fence, tipping toward off.
Green Lantern Corps #6
On the whole it has been Soranik Natu who has been carrying this book for me, but I guess I've also been picking up on some of the other Lanterns as well because I really want to know what Isamot is going to do next issue! Currently on the keep list.
Iron Man #13
Well, it was nice to read a story with IM in it and not spend the whole time thinking to myself "Okay, now how are they going to salvage Tony after this?...wait, what's he doing now? gah!" which has been the usual thing recently. At least you see him thinking here. But guys, please don't kill Happy Hogan, dammit! Keeper because of the nostalgia factor.
Irredeemable Ant-Man #2
The best thing about this book is that it's unpredictable. (And I'm still enjoying the notion that there are SHIELD agents and then there are SHIELD agents--that while many are in fact Bondian types, there are also a number that are the equivalent of mall security as far as skill and training go...and while I'm not sure that idea works that well on the whole, in this case it's a hoot.) Not as good as issue #1 but still on the get list.
JLA Classified #29
I don't get this book regularly, but I do when the story featues a lineup I like. Right now it's featuring the Morrison era League, so I'm getting this story arc. (I'd also happily get books about the "Not Necessaily the Justice League" era League but I'm guessing those won't be forthcoming.) Not a bad story if a bit political for my usual preferences, but since I don't yet know if I'll like the new League much, I'm enjoying it. I don't think I'm getting the next arc but I'll keep an eye open for the next arc that interests me.
Justice League of America #3
At this point this is a keeper because I think I might like it at some point, not so much because I love it now. Except for the awesomeness of Black Canary, which is always to love, even if I can't look at her underwear riding up in back (that's not a thong, it's a wedgie) without cringing. Hawkgirl hasn't done much yet and is still far more interesting than in her own book. And while I suspect I'm supposed to like the Red Tornado by now, so far I can't seem to muster much interest. I gather he was more interesting in the old days? Still a keeper but a bit disappointing.
Moon Knight #6
This one's still got me, despite it being not exactly the sort of book I usually go for. (I've got the Essential Moon Knight in the other room, have not read it yet and not sure whether I should--would it complement or interfere with my understanding of this series?) In any case, I like that there's always some point at which I'm not quite sure what's going on. I like the sense of faith that's present in Marc's interactions with Khonshu (regardless of how--or whether--those are taking place). I'm still liking this book. Keeper.
Ms. Marvel #9
Cool thing: Rogue and Ms. Marvel are on the verge of a misunderstanding-based battle, and they don't fight, they figure out what the deal is (two Carols, one from an alternate universe) and go from there. Seriously, how often do you see that--super-powered beings thinking first and hitting only later if necessary? Other cool thing: Carol has been focusing recently on how much better things could have been for her. It's the source of her recent drive. But here, in the alternate Carol, she sees as well how much worse they could have been as well--how she could have failed but did not. At this point her reaction is disgust with the alternate Carol, who represents a far different "could have been." I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out in future issues. And! Not a Civil War issue! Keeper, obviously.
New Avengers #25
Too much Civil War, not enough actual New Avengers. And a way annoying bit where Maria Hill talks about how damn incompetent she is. No, I don't like her (you're not supposed to), but this is a really uncomfortable turn of events, making her so explicitly an unworthy adversary. If I weren't such a die-hard Avengers fan, and if I weren't hoping that I see the light at the end of the tunnel...but I am and I do, so this one is still a keeper. They're making it damn hard, though.
Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes #24
This might be the last issue we get, I'm not sure, although I suppose if the twelve-year-old decides she wants it we'll get it. (She's decided she wants Teen Titans as TPBs so that's off the list of monthlies. I'm glad to see that Supergirl is back in the group, although less glad to see that she's apparently being portrayed as not very bright. (Or is that because her super-brain doesn't work under a red sun?) As for me, it's an okay book, but I'm clearly not in its intended audience and I don't see that changing. Currently gone.
Wonder Woman #3
The twelve-year-old hasn't read this one yet, but once she has, her vote will decide whether we keep getting it. I quite like the art, but the story hasn't drawn me in yet. Although I want to like this book, right now it's off the keep-at-all-costs list, though not off the get list entirely.
Not in this month's shipment and missed: Captain America and Ion.
Possibly adding to the get list: New Excalibur. Also Justice Society of America, mainly because the twelve-year-old really likes Stargirl.
Friday, October 27, 2006
Comics that make me buy comics (or, JLA as gateway drug)
I admit it. I've got a history of doing just what the comic companies want me to, and starting to buy one book because I already enjoy another related title.
The Avengers did this to me. I started buying Iron Man when I was in high school, because I liked him in the Avengers. Same with Captain America (although that one didn't stick after it reached a certain level of miserable, and didn't make a reappearance until Brubaker). And I never did go for Thor, come to think of it... But miniseries? Yeah, I bought the Hawkeye mini. Decent, but clear evidence that the guy couldn't possibly support his own title. Spinoffs? Bought and enjoyed West Coast Avengers for as long as it lasted. (I don't count Ms. Marvel or the Spider-Woman mini because they have strong nostalgia value of their own, and She-Hulk is in a class by herself.)
The X-Men did this to me, gods help me, way back when. Uncanny. Astonishing. No-adjective. X-Factor. Excalibur (easily the best at that time). That, of course, worked against 'em because X-Men Crossover Syndrome was one of the things that drove me away from comics for ten years. Yeah, I'm still bitter. Still won't touch an X-Men book. (That's an exaggeration. The twelve-year-old gets New X-Men and I usually read it. But I buy none for myself!)
More recently, my long-term fondness for Fantastic Four led me to get the Human Torch mini and the much-mourned Thing. No, age has not made me less of a sucker.
So I figured something similar would happen when I started getting into the DC books, particularly since the title I dove into was JLA, a group book. (Late 90s/early 00s, see various discussions of the TPBs earlier in this blog. Have also read some of the Giffen/DeMatteis stuff in TPB form.) Did it happen? Well, of the regulars in the Morrison run:
Aquaman
Good in a group, no desire to read him outside of that, the whole stuffed-shirt thing really only works when there's someone to react. Sorry. (Kind of how I feel about the Sub-mariner as well, honestly. Maybe it's because I don't like fish...)
Batman
Actually, I went through a Batman phase not long after getting back into comics. I'm not sure why--I think possibly because the kids were watching the animated seres at the time--but for a while I bought a number of the various Batman titles. The phase passed, and I stopped getting tbe books, I'd say cold turkey but that implies a difficulty that wasn't present. As in real life, there's only so much moody emo-ness one can take in a man. However, I find him perfectly tolerable in group books. As for his own titles, however, I'm done.
Flash
I've only ever read the Wally Flash, and found him a decent read although not of enough interest to get me to buy his book. I did get a few issues of the new Flash book, new character and all that, but have given it up. The Flash concept isn't one that I find interesting enough on its own to enjoy the book if the characters aren't scintillating, which they haven't been. (Except for Jay. Get me a Jay Garrick book and I'll buy it.)
Green Lantern
This was the one that worked the best on me, leading me to not only get new GL comics but to pick up a few GL TPBs. The concept of Green Lantern is a good one, good enough to make up for a few bad stories, and the one I read first--Kyle Rayner--is pretty likeable. He certainly made more interesting use of his powers than the older Lantern seemed to. I'm now getting the current Ion mini, as well as both the Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps series.
Martian Manhunter
For some reason, J'onn appeals to me without appealing to my need to buy. :) Actually, he hasn't had a title to buy until recently, has he? It's all right, not one I put at the top of the comic stack when I sit down to read, but it isn't at the bottom either. I don't know that I'd read an ongoing, though.
Plastic Man
Plastic Man is the awesomest, and I would buy his book in a minute if he had one.
Superman
I've never been able to muster up much enthusiasm for Superman, although I think his marriage to and relationship with Lois has made him a more interesting character. Works best in a group, as far as I'm concerned. (And the number of titles he appears in would make me reluctant to start getting heavily into him, strictly from a financial standpoint.)
Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman is just cool. Yeah, I'm getting the book, although I'll admit that it took a relaunch to get me to do it (but I probably wouldn't be keeping it if I wasn't pretty sure that Diana was going to return to duty soon enough). I like her, the kids like her, there's really nothing bad to say about her.
So on the whole, I'd say that it was a partial success.
But you never know how these things are going to work.
After all, reading Identity Crisis got me interested in the Atom, which was why I ordered the new Atom title. In this case Ray Palmer got his foot in the door, but it was the new guy who came inside and made himself at home. It's a fun book, a current favorite, and I plan to keep getting it--but I wouldn't have done so if I hadn't read the far more depressing Identity Crisis. The Atom's appearances with the Justice League never did that for me (they were pretty brief, of course).
I've just started reading Birds of Prey; as far as I know, none of the regular cast have their own books. I don't know that I'd pick up an Oracle title or a Huntress title, but I'd definitely pick up a Black Canary book if there were one. (Speaking of whom, am I misremembering or isn't this Canary the second one--she took over the job from her mom? Would mom be an option to fill in for Dinah Jr. in BoP? Just because it would be nice to see an active superheroine who's somewhere within my own age group! :))
The Avengers did this to me. I started buying Iron Man when I was in high school, because I liked him in the Avengers. Same with Captain America (although that one didn't stick after it reached a certain level of miserable, and didn't make a reappearance until Brubaker). And I never did go for Thor, come to think of it... But miniseries? Yeah, I bought the Hawkeye mini. Decent, but clear evidence that the guy couldn't possibly support his own title. Spinoffs? Bought and enjoyed West Coast Avengers for as long as it lasted. (I don't count Ms. Marvel or the Spider-Woman mini because they have strong nostalgia value of their own, and She-Hulk is in a class by herself.)
The X-Men did this to me, gods help me, way back when. Uncanny. Astonishing. No-adjective. X-Factor. Excalibur (easily the best at that time). That, of course, worked against 'em because X-Men Crossover Syndrome was one of the things that drove me away from comics for ten years. Yeah, I'm still bitter. Still won't touch an X-Men book. (That's an exaggeration. The twelve-year-old gets New X-Men and I usually read it. But I buy none for myself!)
More recently, my long-term fondness for Fantastic Four led me to get the Human Torch mini and the much-mourned Thing. No, age has not made me less of a sucker.
So I figured something similar would happen when I started getting into the DC books, particularly since the title I dove into was JLA, a group book. (Late 90s/early 00s, see various discussions of the TPBs earlier in this blog. Have also read some of the Giffen/DeMatteis stuff in TPB form.) Did it happen? Well, of the regulars in the Morrison run:
Aquaman
Good in a group, no desire to read him outside of that, the whole stuffed-shirt thing really only works when there's someone to react. Sorry. (Kind of how I feel about the Sub-mariner as well, honestly. Maybe it's because I don't like fish...)
Batman
Actually, I went through a Batman phase not long after getting back into comics. I'm not sure why--I think possibly because the kids were watching the animated seres at the time--but for a while I bought a number of the various Batman titles. The phase passed, and I stopped getting tbe books, I'd say cold turkey but that implies a difficulty that wasn't present. As in real life, there's only so much moody emo-ness one can take in a man. However, I find him perfectly tolerable in group books. As for his own titles, however, I'm done.
Flash
I've only ever read the Wally Flash, and found him a decent read although not of enough interest to get me to buy his book. I did get a few issues of the new Flash book, new character and all that, but have given it up. The Flash concept isn't one that I find interesting enough on its own to enjoy the book if the characters aren't scintillating, which they haven't been. (Except for Jay. Get me a Jay Garrick book and I'll buy it.)
Green Lantern
This was the one that worked the best on me, leading me to not only get new GL comics but to pick up a few GL TPBs. The concept of Green Lantern is a good one, good enough to make up for a few bad stories, and the one I read first--Kyle Rayner--is pretty likeable. He certainly made more interesting use of his powers than the older Lantern seemed to. I'm now getting the current Ion mini, as well as both the Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps series.
Martian Manhunter
For some reason, J'onn appeals to me without appealing to my need to buy. :) Actually, he hasn't had a title to buy until recently, has he? It's all right, not one I put at the top of the comic stack when I sit down to read, but it isn't at the bottom either. I don't know that I'd read an ongoing, though.
Plastic Man
Plastic Man is the awesomest, and I would buy his book in a minute if he had one.
Superman
I've never been able to muster up much enthusiasm for Superman, although I think his marriage to and relationship with Lois has made him a more interesting character. Works best in a group, as far as I'm concerned. (And the number of titles he appears in would make me reluctant to start getting heavily into him, strictly from a financial standpoint.)
Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman is just cool. Yeah, I'm getting the book, although I'll admit that it took a relaunch to get me to do it (but I probably wouldn't be keeping it if I wasn't pretty sure that Diana was going to return to duty soon enough). I like her, the kids like her, there's really nothing bad to say about her.
So on the whole, I'd say that it was a partial success.
But you never know how these things are going to work.
After all, reading Identity Crisis got me interested in the Atom, which was why I ordered the new Atom title. In this case Ray Palmer got his foot in the door, but it was the new guy who came inside and made himself at home. It's a fun book, a current favorite, and I plan to keep getting it--but I wouldn't have done so if I hadn't read the far more depressing Identity Crisis. The Atom's appearances with the Justice League never did that for me (they were pretty brief, of course).
I've just started reading Birds of Prey; as far as I know, none of the regular cast have their own books. I don't know that I'd pick up an Oracle title or a Huntress title, but I'd definitely pick up a Black Canary book if there were one. (Speaking of whom, am I misremembering or isn't this Canary the second one--she took over the job from her mom? Would mom be an option to fill in for Dinah Jr. in BoP? Just because it would be nice to see an active superheroine who's somewhere within my own age group! :))
Saturday, October 07, 2006
The September Comics, Part 3 [Spoilers]
Iron Man 12, Justice League of America 2, Moon Knight 5, Ms. Marvel 7, Secret Six 4, She-Hulk 11
Iron Man 12
This issue, apparently, is supposed to provide a reasonable explanation for Tony's pro-registration point of view in Civil War. (His own abilities have been controlled by others, resulting in several deaths, and he feels a great deal of guilt at this, and is looking hard for a solution to this possibility in himself and others.) The thing is, registering heroes would do just about nothing to solve this problem--it's not a logical connection. So, a disappointing conclusion to this storyline (disappointing in part because it ended up being a Civil War connection. :))
Justice League of America 2
Not as compelling as the last one, honestly. I might find the Red Tornado storyline touching if I had ever seen the character before now. But I have faith that this book will improve. And it stays on the get list in any case because it's one of the twelve-year-old's choices. :)
Moon Knight 5
I'm not an old Moon Knight fan. I never read the old series. Still haven't. And now, really, I'm not inclined to. Why's that? Marlene. She's the main thing I like in this book--smart, tough as nails, has a heart, and takes no crap. Not what I would have envisioned from what little I knew of Moon Knight before this series. I don't want to read the old books because I'm afraid that the old Marlene might disappoint. (Note that I have no idea whether this would be so--I'm just guessing by the time period that it might be the case.)
Other than that, not so interesting. Once the story picks up that may change, but at this point I've had about as much of tragic brooding Marc Spector as I care for.
Ms. Marvel 7
An attempt is made here to show the positive side of hero registration, at least as Carol perceives it, when the teen heroine Arana is given the opportunity for training. (I do have a small issue with their insistence on informing the parents of powered kids--Arana has a loving, supportive, and apparently accepting father. Not all kids would.) Of course, we're also shown the darker side of registration, as Carol and Simon go after Julia Carpenter on her way out of the country. They don't catch her, but it's clearly a more vicious, potentially-dangerous-to-onlookers battle than the situation would appear to require. What we do see, however, is that Carol genuinely feels she's doing what's right here. Possibly she isn't worrying about the details because of a "just following orders" mentality (possibly I'm thinking that way because I just read Captain America 22), I don't know, but at this point at least she hasn't taken on the "evil" vibe that Stark and Richards seem to be wearing these days.
Secret Six 4
Still enjoying this one. So is the twelve-year-old, who has commented favorably on the artwork compared with that in Villains United, saying that the faces are more expressive. She has a point, although personally I enjoyed both (apart from some of the inflated musculature in VU...) and found Eaglesham's ability to draw large numbers of clearly differentiated characters amazing.
The theme this issue seems to be nasty, nasty revenge. First, Vandal Savage's punishment for Solomon Grundy--making a meal of him for Cheshire and Dr. Psycho. (Presumably the regenerating Grundy will recover eventually.) Also, it seems, a test for the latter two.
And second...the remarkably uncharacteristic pairing of Deadshot and Knockout at the end of the issue? I see two possibilities here, both involving mind control. First possibility (and the one I'm leaning toward), the Hatter, furious at Scandal for daring to touch his beloved hat, voicing his intention of revenge in his usual anything-but-clear phrasing. He could do it. Second, Vandal Savage wants Scandal to return to him, by using her friends against her, by making her despair. What would do this more than a betrayal by her lover? Dr. Psycho could do it, although since he seems to need some proximity (line of sight?) he seems a less likely candidate than the Hatter (although if I'm wrong on the nature of his powers, it could be him as well).
She-Hulk 11
The big reveal this issue (and I've been waiting for it!) is that the reason Starfox's supposedly-short-acting love power is still affecting Jen and John (and Mallory and Andy) is that Andy accidentally absorbed those powers and has been inadvertently exercising them. When he learns this, he shuts them off, not wanting to live a lie, and Mallory immediately reverts to her heartless legal shark persona. Poor guy. :( I genuinely felt sorry for him.
The rest of the book is worth reading as well, just this is the bit that stood out for me.
Iron Man 12
This issue, apparently, is supposed to provide a reasonable explanation for Tony's pro-registration point of view in Civil War. (His own abilities have been controlled by others, resulting in several deaths, and he feels a great deal of guilt at this, and is looking hard for a solution to this possibility in himself and others.) The thing is, registering heroes would do just about nothing to solve this problem--it's not a logical connection. So, a disappointing conclusion to this storyline (disappointing in part because it ended up being a Civil War connection. :))
Justice League of America 2
Not as compelling as the last one, honestly. I might find the Red Tornado storyline touching if I had ever seen the character before now. But I have faith that this book will improve. And it stays on the get list in any case because it's one of the twelve-year-old's choices. :)
Moon Knight 5
I'm not an old Moon Knight fan. I never read the old series. Still haven't. And now, really, I'm not inclined to. Why's that? Marlene. She's the main thing I like in this book--smart, tough as nails, has a heart, and takes no crap. Not what I would have envisioned from what little I knew of Moon Knight before this series. I don't want to read the old books because I'm afraid that the old Marlene might disappoint. (Note that I have no idea whether this would be so--I'm just guessing by the time period that it might be the case.)
Other than that, not so interesting. Once the story picks up that may change, but at this point I've had about as much of tragic brooding Marc Spector as I care for.
Ms. Marvel 7
An attempt is made here to show the positive side of hero registration, at least as Carol perceives it, when the teen heroine Arana is given the opportunity for training. (I do have a small issue with their insistence on informing the parents of powered kids--Arana has a loving, supportive, and apparently accepting father. Not all kids would.) Of course, we're also shown the darker side of registration, as Carol and Simon go after Julia Carpenter on her way out of the country. They don't catch her, but it's clearly a more vicious, potentially-dangerous-to-onlookers battle than the situation would appear to require. What we do see, however, is that Carol genuinely feels she's doing what's right here. Possibly she isn't worrying about the details because of a "just following orders" mentality (possibly I'm thinking that way because I just read Captain America 22), I don't know, but at this point at least she hasn't taken on the "evil" vibe that Stark and Richards seem to be wearing these days.
Secret Six 4
Still enjoying this one. So is the twelve-year-old, who has commented favorably on the artwork compared with that in Villains United, saying that the faces are more expressive. She has a point, although personally I enjoyed both (apart from some of the inflated musculature in VU...) and found Eaglesham's ability to draw large numbers of clearly differentiated characters amazing.
The theme this issue seems to be nasty, nasty revenge. First, Vandal Savage's punishment for Solomon Grundy--making a meal of him for Cheshire and Dr. Psycho. (Presumably the regenerating Grundy will recover eventually.) Also, it seems, a test for the latter two.
And second...the remarkably uncharacteristic pairing of Deadshot and Knockout at the end of the issue? I see two possibilities here, both involving mind control. First possibility (and the one I'm leaning toward), the Hatter, furious at Scandal for daring to touch his beloved hat, voicing his intention of revenge in his usual anything-but-clear phrasing. He could do it. Second, Vandal Savage wants Scandal to return to him, by using her friends against her, by making her despair. What would do this more than a betrayal by her lover? Dr. Psycho could do it, although since he seems to need some proximity (line of sight?) he seems a less likely candidate than the Hatter (although if I'm wrong on the nature of his powers, it could be him as well).
She-Hulk 11
The big reveal this issue (and I've been waiting for it!) is that the reason Starfox's supposedly-short-acting love power is still affecting Jen and John (and Mallory and Andy) is that Andy accidentally absorbed those powers and has been inadvertently exercising them. When he learns this, he shuts them off, not wanting to live a lie, and Mallory immediately reverts to her heartless legal shark persona. Poor guy. :( I genuinely felt sorry for him.
The rest of the book is worth reading as well, just this is the bit that stood out for me.
Wednesday, August 30, 2006
The August Comics, Part 2 [Spoilers]
Hawkgirl
It's official, this book is off the list. (We might still be getting another issue due to the order-early thing, but are not ordering any more.) I don't enjoy it. The eleven-year-old (you know, the Hawkgirlfan, the reason we ordered it in the first place) doesn't enjoy it. Dull story, unappealing art. (I really only like Chaykin in very specific applications, and apparently this isn't one of them--and the eleven-year-old commented specifically about not caring for the art.) We may give it another try somewhere down the road, if there is a change in the creative team, but until then there's no point in reading something that's so not fun.
Ion #5/12
Well, it's holding my interest. It helps that there's some earthbound action in addition to the space opera (my tolerance for cosmic is limited). I'm enjoying the characterization of Hal Jordan here (looking forward to the new main GL title now, actually), less so that of Kyle, who I've generally found to be fairly interesting up until now. But this book was never in danger of being cut, still more to like than not. I'm just not sure that I'm going to like Kyle as Ion as much as I liked him as Green Lantern.
Iron Man #11
Okay, Tony as a blond is still really weird. Memorable--Iron Man defeating the Sentry by playing directly on his weakness. It seems cruel, but it's effective, and apparently IM hadn't really given it a lot of thought (the "how" of bringing down a teammate) or he'd have done it sooner. Yes, I do want to see what happens next, although there's only one story in this arc and I'm not sure whether the next will have a Civil War focus or not. I've always liked Iron Man, conceptually, although certainly over the years the execution has been variable. Right now, quality is decent. I'm hoping that continues.
Justice League of America #1
All right, first of all, what I know about the Justice League comes from three sources: first, the recent cartoon series (never did watch Superfriends, our antenna didn't get that network when I was a kid); second, the JLA series from the late '90s/early '00s (which I've read in TPB form and have discussed here earlier, and which is the source of most of my expectations); and third, some of the Justice League International TPBs, which are damn funny but maybe don't provide the best cues for what the JLA is. Oh yes, and that Year One series, which I borrowed from my brother not long ago. :)
So, so far I like it. No clue who the Red Tornado is, but he was well introduced here. Enjoyed the discussion among Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman about who should get to be on the team; however, honestly, I really prefer the other idea that it was the other heroes that started the group--yes, Supes, Bats and WW are the most iconic characters, but making them somehow indispensable really weakens the notion of the group itself, I think.
Martian Manhunter #1
I wanted to like this book. I like J'Onn, or have in the past (although I'll admit that I've only ever seen him in JLA.). So far the characterization doesn't grab me, although I kind of like the less-human-than-usual way J'Onn is drawn (as often, his appearance reflects his state of mind). I am, however, interested in seeing what happens next, so will probably (although not certainly) continue with this series.
It's official, this book is off the list. (We might still be getting another issue due to the order-early thing, but are not ordering any more.) I don't enjoy it. The eleven-year-old (you know, the Hawkgirlfan, the reason we ordered it in the first place) doesn't enjoy it. Dull story, unappealing art. (I really only like Chaykin in very specific applications, and apparently this isn't one of them--and the eleven-year-old commented specifically about not caring for the art.) We may give it another try somewhere down the road, if there is a change in the creative team, but until then there's no point in reading something that's so not fun.
Ion #5/12
Well, it's holding my interest. It helps that there's some earthbound action in addition to the space opera (my tolerance for cosmic is limited). I'm enjoying the characterization of Hal Jordan here (looking forward to the new main GL title now, actually), less so that of Kyle, who I've generally found to be fairly interesting up until now. But this book was never in danger of being cut, still more to like than not. I'm just not sure that I'm going to like Kyle as Ion as much as I liked him as Green Lantern.
Iron Man #11
Okay, Tony as a blond is still really weird. Memorable--Iron Man defeating the Sentry by playing directly on his weakness. It seems cruel, but it's effective, and apparently IM hadn't really given it a lot of thought (the "how" of bringing down a teammate) or he'd have done it sooner. Yes, I do want to see what happens next, although there's only one story in this arc and I'm not sure whether the next will have a Civil War focus or not. I've always liked Iron Man, conceptually, although certainly over the years the execution has been variable. Right now, quality is decent. I'm hoping that continues.
Justice League of America #1
All right, first of all, what I know about the Justice League comes from three sources: first, the recent cartoon series (never did watch Superfriends, our antenna didn't get that network when I was a kid); second, the JLA series from the late '90s/early '00s (which I've read in TPB form and have discussed here earlier, and which is the source of most of my expectations); and third, some of the Justice League International TPBs, which are damn funny but maybe don't provide the best cues for what the JLA is. Oh yes, and that Year One series, which I borrowed from my brother not long ago. :)
So, so far I like it. No clue who the Red Tornado is, but he was well introduced here. Enjoyed the discussion among Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman about who should get to be on the team; however, honestly, I really prefer the other idea that it was the other heroes that started the group--yes, Supes, Bats and WW are the most iconic characters, but making them somehow indispensable really weakens the notion of the group itself, I think.
Martian Manhunter #1
I wanted to like this book. I like J'Onn, or have in the past (although I'll admit that I've only ever seen him in JLA.). So far the characterization doesn't grab me, although I kind of like the less-human-than-usual way J'Onn is drawn (as often, his appearance reflects his state of mind). I am, however, interested in seeing what happens next, so will probably (although not certainly) continue with this series.
Saturday, August 05, 2006
The July Comics, Part 2 [Spoilers]
The Flash #2
On the plus side, an excellent recap of Bart's origin for those of us who don't really know who he is. His relationships with the other characters are well-defined and, likewise, well-explained. On the not-so-plus side, though, I'm just not really enjoying this book. To contrast it with the new Atom book, which I've quite liked so far and which stands on its own, this one just makes me think of how much I prefer Wally. I'll give it another issue or three, because it's not fair for me to judge it on an issue where so much of the text is expository, but I'm not hopeful.
Green Lantern Corps #1-2
Considering my usual lack of fondness for space opera, I'm a little surprised to find myself liking this book so much. All (well, mostly) because of Soranik Natu. Please don't kill her. And although I don't have a history of reading Green Lantern, I suspect that having them partnered up is more interesting than when they flew solo. This one stays on the get list.
Hawkgirl #54
I added this one when I learned that it existed--since the eleven-year-old is a Hawkgirl fan. She does not like this book., says it's hard to follow, and I can't tell whether this has to do with coming into the story in the middle or not. Unless this issue is very atypical, I don't think we'll be getting this one for much longer.
Ion #4/12
This one is on the list because I've enjoyed so much of what I've seen of the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern. I do anticipate getting the whole 12 issues of this one. That said, I am a little concerned about the whole "becoming something greater" thing. From what I've seen, when a comic book character gets not only a significant power boost but a Major Cosmic Change in who s/he is, it's not a good thing. Too often, whatever was most cool about the original character is lost. So far they do seem to be holding on to his human side (the scenes at the artists' retreat in earlier issues) so I'm not ready to assume the worst.
On the other hand, the new abilities will certainly steepen the learning curve, and this character does really well (in terms of being interesting) when he's learning new things (as opposed to being established and highly skilled), so we'll see.
Iron Man #10
Iron Man has always been a favorite character of mine, I'm not sure why--the contrast between his level of power and his human failings, I suppose. I still don't like the Extremis version, and I still think it's likely to be a temporary thing. In this issue: the return of Maya Hanson! Tony looks like hell as a clean-shaven blonde! And The Sentry? doing something? Big fights, superhero angst, women in prison (sigh). Yeah, I'm looking forward to the next issue.
Justice League of America #0
Interesting stuff; since I don't buy Superman or Batman comics at this time, and since I've only seen the one Wonder Woman (see next entry) I don't really know what's going on there, although the internet tells me that they've all three been missing for a year. I did enjoy the "yesterday" scenes, not so much the "tomorrow" ones (presumably these are not definite futures). And after reading this, I guess I can discard all the how-the-JLA-was-built stuff I just learned from reading Year One? (Gah. Honestly I think that Year One makes more sense.)
Moon Knight #3
Much of Moon Knight is darkness, violence and gore. In this issue, there's a bit more--the scene where Marc meets with his old associate Frenchie, who outs himself as gay to Marc. I think the intention is that Marc's subsequent anger is because Frenchie didn't tell him (implicitly, didn't trust him enough to tell him), but it's fuzzy. Frenchie, on the other hand, seems to think he shouldn't have had to tell him in so many words--that if Marc had been more astute he'd have picked up on it. I do still plan to keep getting this one, but really, something else interesting needs to happen soon.
On the plus side, an excellent recap of Bart's origin for those of us who don't really know who he is. His relationships with the other characters are well-defined and, likewise, well-explained. On the not-so-plus side, though, I'm just not really enjoying this book. To contrast it with the new Atom book, which I've quite liked so far and which stands on its own, this one just makes me think of how much I prefer Wally. I'll give it another issue or three, because it's not fair for me to judge it on an issue where so much of the text is expository, but I'm not hopeful.
Green Lantern Corps #1-2
Considering my usual lack of fondness for space opera, I'm a little surprised to find myself liking this book so much. All (well, mostly) because of Soranik Natu. Please don't kill her. And although I don't have a history of reading Green Lantern, I suspect that having them partnered up is more interesting than when they flew solo. This one stays on the get list.
Hawkgirl #54
I added this one when I learned that it existed--since the eleven-year-old is a Hawkgirl fan. She does not like this book., says it's hard to follow, and I can't tell whether this has to do with coming into the story in the middle or not. Unless this issue is very atypical, I don't think we'll be getting this one for much longer.
Ion #4/12
This one is on the list because I've enjoyed so much of what I've seen of the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern. I do anticipate getting the whole 12 issues of this one. That said, I am a little concerned about the whole "becoming something greater" thing. From what I've seen, when a comic book character gets not only a significant power boost but a Major Cosmic Change in who s/he is, it's not a good thing. Too often, whatever was most cool about the original character is lost. So far they do seem to be holding on to his human side (the scenes at the artists' retreat in earlier issues) so I'm not ready to assume the worst.
On the other hand, the new abilities will certainly steepen the learning curve, and this character does really well (in terms of being interesting) when he's learning new things (as opposed to being established and highly skilled), so we'll see.
Iron Man #10
Iron Man has always been a favorite character of mine, I'm not sure why--the contrast between his level of power and his human failings, I suppose. I still don't like the Extremis version, and I still think it's likely to be a temporary thing. In this issue: the return of Maya Hanson! Tony looks like hell as a clean-shaven blonde! And The Sentry? doing something? Big fights, superhero angst, women in prison (sigh). Yeah, I'm looking forward to the next issue.
Justice League of America #0
Interesting stuff; since I don't buy Superman or Batman comics at this time, and since I've only seen the one Wonder Woman (see next entry) I don't really know what's going on there, although the internet tells me that they've all three been missing for a year. I did enjoy the "yesterday" scenes, not so much the "tomorrow" ones (presumably these are not definite futures). And after reading this, I guess I can discard all the how-the-JLA-was-built stuff I just learned from reading Year One? (Gah. Honestly I think that Year One makes more sense.)
Moon Knight #3
Much of Moon Knight is darkness, violence and gore. In this issue, there's a bit more--the scene where Marc meets with his old associate Frenchie, who outs himself as gay to Marc. I think the intention is that Marc's subsequent anger is because Frenchie didn't tell him (implicitly, didn't trust him enough to tell him), but it's fuzzy. Frenchie, on the other hand, seems to think he shouldn't have had to tell him in so many words--that if Marc had been more astute he'd have picked up on it. I do still plan to keep getting this one, but really, something else interesting needs to happen soon.
Saturday, July 29, 2006
JLA: The Obsidian Age, Books 1 and 2 (11th and 12th TPBs, 2003) [Spoilers]
A story so big it filled two TPBs: Book 1 includes JLA 66-71, and Book 2 holds JLA 72-76. What happens in brief: the JLA go back in time to ancient Atlantis to rescue Aquaman, and become trapped there (and then). A new JLA is formed, chosen by Batman (who always has a plan, even when he's 3000 years in the past), and the rest of the story goes back and forth between the old group in the past, and the new group in the present.
Cool things:
Hawkgirl in the new JLA--well, the eleven-year-old, who adores Hawkgirl, was pretty happy about this! :)
Noted:
Green Lantern's new costume is all right (although I liked the old asymmetrical one), but the new haircut? Not so much.
I am not a big fan, generally speaking, of Life Changing Experiences in comics. Not because I object to change (well, sometimes) but because these changes rarely last even through the run of the writer who made the change, and almost never into the next writer's work.
"Awwww!" moments:
Wonder Woman helping Batman recover from his time-travel jet lag illness:
Faith telling Nightwing about what Batman said about him:
"Ew!" moments:
The idea of live birds in one's mouth literally made me queasy. Ick, ick, ick!
Things that made me laugh:
Green Lantern's dream sequence, the part before the visions. Interesting take on his fellow team members:
The "nurses" the injured Green Lantern creates for himself:
This scene with J'Onn trying to help Green Lantern figure out where his dreams are coming from. I'm not sure why GL is the source of so much humor this time around--maybe to balance out the rest of his role:
Green Arrow. The guy makes Plastic Man look like a charter member of NOW:
And speaking of Plastic Man:
Green Lantern:
One of the threads running through the story is Green Lantern's seemingly-precognitive series of dreams and visions regarding the mission, and the way he (someone not used to receiving information in this way) deals with them.
As when they're about to go into the past and he makes a half-hearted attempt to stop the trip:
And when they've made their journey, and he tries to see if anyone else shares his foreboding:
Most touching, I think, is this scene where he sees that regardless of what he does, things are going to play out in the tragic way he has foreseen:
Plastic Man:
Here's where the aforementioned Life Changing Experience thing comes in. Unlike the other JLA members, Plastic Man did not die in the past and return to life in the present. He was destroyed in the past, broken into pieces, and survived at the ocean's floor for 3000 years. (Hey, I said there were spoilers!) The JLA recovers the pieces in the present day and help him to reform himself. Plastic Man, therefore, has had 3000 years alone in his own "head":
On the one hand, you'd expect that over 3000 years one wouldn't be anything like the same person--on the other, it's not as if he's had any new experiences/input, so perhaps the broader changes would be less radical. I do like his new priority, and I'm glad they're addressing this issue (although I would have hoped it'd take something less than this to get him to go see his kid). Of course I'm not particularly thrilled to see him leave the group.
The Villain:
Although the team fights a group of enemies, the real villain is Gamemnae, a mighty sorceress and queen of early Atlantis. Very powerful, very evil, she battles the group in the past and the present alike.
At the back of Book 1, there is a commentary section. and here's a bit of what artist Doug Mahnke says about creating Gamemnae:
Elsewhere in the commentary section:
I'm a little unclear on what he means about her needing to be "prettier as the Ancient". Here is Gamemnae, clearly drawn to be beautiful, as she first appears, in the ancient world:
And here she is in modern times, as the present-day JLA find her:
My impression on reading the book is that it seems as though her beauty or lack of it is supposed to reflect the degree of corruption (the more evil she gets, the uglier she gets). That's what the commentary implies. This doesn't work all that well, for a couple of reasons. First is that as far as I can tell, she was pretty evil to start out with--evil and beautiful. Second is that the change in appearance seems to have more to do with her taking in power than with her evil. (The beauty was a tool--once she didn't need it, once she had enough personal power that she no longer needed to get what she wanted from others via coercion or seduction, she shed it without a backward glance.) She doesn't begin to transform until she has begun to incorporate others within herself, and you see very little of that during the Ancient World parts of the story, but that's not a change in her good/evil status per se.
In any case, while Gamemnae is certainly nobody's role model, I did find that one aspect of her pretty cool. Being willing to abandon her traditional beauty when it no longer served her needs, because she herself only valued it for what it could get her (and once that was no longer necessary she quickly went with a more efficient plan)? To abandon the ability to make her gains indirectly through the good will or desire of others? To abandon what others surely saw as a primary characteristic because in truth it had little to do with her essential (evil, ruthless, self-centered, single-minded, power-hungry) self? That makes quite a statement. It is, I think, intended to indicate that she is divorcing herself from humanity/Atlantis at that point--but that happened long before this.
Cool things:
Hawkgirl in the new JLA--well, the eleven-year-old, who adores Hawkgirl, was pretty happy about this! :)
Noted:
Green Lantern's new costume is all right (although I liked the old asymmetrical one), but the new haircut? Not so much.
I am not a big fan, generally speaking, of Life Changing Experiences in comics. Not because I object to change (well, sometimes) but because these changes rarely last even through the run of the writer who made the change, and almost never into the next writer's work.
"Awwww!" moments:
Wonder Woman helping Batman recover from his time-travel jet lag illness:
Faith telling Nightwing about what Batman said about him:
"Ew!" moments:
The idea of live birds in one's mouth literally made me queasy. Ick, ick, ick!
Things that made me laugh:
Green Lantern's dream sequence, the part before the visions. Interesting take on his fellow team members:
The "nurses" the injured Green Lantern creates for himself:
This scene with J'Onn trying to help Green Lantern figure out where his dreams are coming from. I'm not sure why GL is the source of so much humor this time around--maybe to balance out the rest of his role:
Green Arrow. The guy makes Plastic Man look like a charter member of NOW:
And speaking of Plastic Man:
Green Lantern:
One of the threads running through the story is Green Lantern's seemingly-precognitive series of dreams and visions regarding the mission, and the way he (someone not used to receiving information in this way) deals with them.
As when they're about to go into the past and he makes a half-hearted attempt to stop the trip:
And when they've made their journey, and he tries to see if anyone else shares his foreboding:
Most touching, I think, is this scene where he sees that regardless of what he does, things are going to play out in the tragic way he has foreseen:
Plastic Man:
Here's where the aforementioned Life Changing Experience thing comes in. Unlike the other JLA members, Plastic Man did not die in the past and return to life in the present. He was destroyed in the past, broken into pieces, and survived at the ocean's floor for 3000 years. (Hey, I said there were spoilers!) The JLA recovers the pieces in the present day and help him to reform himself. Plastic Man, therefore, has had 3000 years alone in his own "head":
On the one hand, you'd expect that over 3000 years one wouldn't be anything like the same person--on the other, it's not as if he's had any new experiences/input, so perhaps the broader changes would be less radical. I do like his new priority, and I'm glad they're addressing this issue (although I would have hoped it'd take something less than this to get him to go see his kid). Of course I'm not particularly thrilled to see him leave the group.
The Villain:
Although the team fights a group of enemies, the real villain is Gamemnae, a mighty sorceress and queen of early Atlantis. Very powerful, very evil, she battles the group in the past and the present alike.
At the back of Book 1, there is a commentary section. and here's a bit of what artist Doug Mahnke says about creating Gamemnae:
We had a lot of difficulties with her separating the Ancient version from the Modern one. She should have been prettier as the Ancient; we kind of uglied her up too much.
Elsewhere in the commentary section:
...by forming the Ancients and killing the JLA...she slowly becomes corrupted and sells away pieces of her soul to the dark sorcery that fuels her powers.
I'm a little unclear on what he means about her needing to be "prettier as the Ancient". Here is Gamemnae, clearly drawn to be beautiful, as she first appears, in the ancient world:
And here she is in modern times, as the present-day JLA find her:
My impression on reading the book is that it seems as though her beauty or lack of it is supposed to reflect the degree of corruption (the more evil she gets, the uglier she gets). That's what the commentary implies. This doesn't work all that well, for a couple of reasons. First is that as far as I can tell, she was pretty evil to start out with--evil and beautiful. Second is that the change in appearance seems to have more to do with her taking in power than with her evil. (The beauty was a tool--once she didn't need it, once she had enough personal power that she no longer needed to get what she wanted from others via coercion or seduction, she shed it without a backward glance.) She doesn't begin to transform until she has begun to incorporate others within herself, and you see very little of that during the Ancient World parts of the story, but that's not a change in her good/evil status per se.
In any case, while Gamemnae is certainly nobody's role model, I did find that one aspect of her pretty cool. Being willing to abandon her traditional beauty when it no longer served her needs, because she herself only valued it for what it could get her (and once that was no longer necessary she quickly went with a more efficient plan)? To abandon the ability to make her gains indirectly through the good will or desire of others? To abandon what others surely saw as a primary characteristic because in truth it had little to do with her essential (evil, ruthless, self-centered, single-minded, power-hungry) self? That makes quite a statement. It is, I think, intended to indicate that she is divorcing herself from humanity/Atlantis at that point--but that happened long before this.
Thursday, July 20, 2006
Plastic Man - JLA: Golden Perfect (10th TPB, 2003), Part 2 [Many Spoilers]
"Bouncing Baby Boy"
Yes, there are spoilers here, lots of them.
In this story, Plastic Man goes to Batman for help dealing with the child of an ex-girlfriend, Luke, who is running with a bad crowd, hoping that Batman can "scare him straight." Batman agrees, for some reason. Here they meet with Luke's mother, whose relationship with O'Brian is fairly hostile, and it's easy to see why:
Luke's mother (Angel) pauses when Batman asks about his father, but Plastic Man says nothing, and she tells him what she tells her son--that the father is dead. It soon becomes apparent that Luke is in fact the son of Plastic Man, with whom he has had virtually no contact, and who has presumably no idea that Plastic Man is his father.
Now, I don't think that Plas is technically a deadbeat dad--you can infer from information provided elsewhere
that he does send money to Angel. He tells Batman that he's never been married, so the check is clearly not alimony--and the only other kind of check one might send to an ex would be child support. So I'm assuming that he sends money on a regular basis to help with the boy's upkeep.
Not that this mitigates the act of abandoning the kid emotionally and leaving Angel to do all the parenting, but it does indicate that he's not a total sleazebag. (Just fairly close :)) Going back to my previous post, I think this has something to do with the change in Plastic Man there--that with this story coming up in which he really acts like a heel, the authors may have wanted to build up to that a bit--show some hostility to and mistrust of women in general, to be explained here by his very dysfunctional relationship with Angel? Make him less sympathetic to make it more believable that he would do something like this? I don't know.
They do try to put it in a better context
and give some possible reasons for it; someone particularly fond of Plas can say that he stayed away from his kid because he was afraid he'd be the same sort of father his own dad was, and that's pointed toward but it's obviously not the whole of the story. My own opinion, as someone who does like the Plastic Man character, is that there was really no need for the build-up, showing Plas in a bad light (hell, he has always been shown to have an irresponsible side!)--otherwise-nice people do crap like this all the time. It's surprising, yes, as it is in real life, but honestly there's nothing in his past characterization to say that he would never, ever run away from familial responsibility. He doesn't have to be shown as worse than he has been to make this believable.
I also found Batman's reaction interesting:
not only because it is a rare instance of Batman not being all-knowing, but because it's a well-balanced reaction--he isn't going to give Plastic Man a walk on this--he obviously feels that this behavior is reprehensible--but he's also not going to interfere, although he will encourage Plas to "do the right thing""
Just as Angel did, he gives O'Brian a chance to come clean, but doesn't force it when he doesn't.
As someone who is a parent, my initial, superficial reaction is to think "Plastic Man's a jerk!" (And still enjoy the character, just with that extra aura of jerkiness. :)) However, as someone who--for many years--was single, childless, with my whole life ahead of me and many plans to explore--I can find some sympathy (particuarly since--as a parent--I know what a resource sink children are). My guess is that Angel and O'Brian never had "the talk"--you know, where you sit down with your partner and figure out what you'll do if "it" happens. This is important, not because you have a plan (because chances are that things will look different when parenthood is looming than they did when you were secure in your non-pregnancy) but because you've addressed the issue and each knows how the other feels about it. No wonder they fight.
And is no parent better than a less-than-optimal parent? O'Brian seems to think so--although I suspect there may have some relief involved as well once he felt he had a good reason to stay away--and he may well lack the self-esteem to feel he could overcome his own childhood, despite the fact that he has overcome so much of his past already. All that said, he now knows that Luke knows that he is his father, and that has to make a difference.
There's no resolution here. That's appropriate. That's realistic. What isn't realistic is for this story not to be addressed again--and I hope it will be.
Yes, there are spoilers here, lots of them.
In this story, Plastic Man goes to Batman for help dealing with the child of an ex-girlfriend, Luke, who is running with a bad crowd, hoping that Batman can "scare him straight." Batman agrees, for some reason. Here they meet with Luke's mother, whose relationship with O'Brian is fairly hostile, and it's easy to see why:
Luke's mother (Angel) pauses when Batman asks about his father, but Plastic Man says nothing, and she tells him what she tells her son--that the father is dead. It soon becomes apparent that Luke is in fact the son of Plastic Man, with whom he has had virtually no contact, and who has presumably no idea that Plastic Man is his father.
Now, I don't think that Plas is technically a deadbeat dad--you can infer from information provided elsewhere
that he does send money to Angel. He tells Batman that he's never been married, so the check is clearly not alimony--and the only other kind of check one might send to an ex would be child support. So I'm assuming that he sends money on a regular basis to help with the boy's upkeep.
Not that this mitigates the act of abandoning the kid emotionally and leaving Angel to do all the parenting, but it does indicate that he's not a total sleazebag. (Just fairly close :)) Going back to my previous post, I think this has something to do with the change in Plastic Man there--that with this story coming up in which he really acts like a heel, the authors may have wanted to build up to that a bit--show some hostility to and mistrust of women in general, to be explained here by his very dysfunctional relationship with Angel? Make him less sympathetic to make it more believable that he would do something like this? I don't know.
They do try to put it in a better context
and give some possible reasons for it; someone particularly fond of Plas can say that he stayed away from his kid because he was afraid he'd be the same sort of father his own dad was, and that's pointed toward but it's obviously not the whole of the story. My own opinion, as someone who does like the Plastic Man character, is that there was really no need for the build-up, showing Plas in a bad light (hell, he has always been shown to have an irresponsible side!)--otherwise-nice people do crap like this all the time. It's surprising, yes, as it is in real life, but honestly there's nothing in his past characterization to say that he would never, ever run away from familial responsibility. He doesn't have to be shown as worse than he has been to make this believable.
I also found Batman's reaction interesting:
not only because it is a rare instance of Batman not being all-knowing, but because it's a well-balanced reaction--he isn't going to give Plastic Man a walk on this--he obviously feels that this behavior is reprehensible--but he's also not going to interfere, although he will encourage Plas to "do the right thing""
Just as Angel did, he gives O'Brian a chance to come clean, but doesn't force it when he doesn't.
As someone who is a parent, my initial, superficial reaction is to think "Plastic Man's a jerk!" (And still enjoy the character, just with that extra aura of jerkiness. :)) However, as someone who--for many years--was single, childless, with my whole life ahead of me and many plans to explore--I can find some sympathy (particuarly since--as a parent--I know what a resource sink children are). My guess is that Angel and O'Brian never had "the talk"--you know, where you sit down with your partner and figure out what you'll do if "it" happens. This is important, not because you have a plan (because chances are that things will look different when parenthood is looming than they did when you were secure in your non-pregnancy) but because you've addressed the issue and each knows how the other feels about it. No wonder they fight.
And is no parent better than a less-than-optimal parent? O'Brian seems to think so--although I suspect there may have some relief involved as well once he felt he had a good reason to stay away--and he may well lack the self-esteem to feel he could overcome his own childhood, despite the fact that he has overcome so much of his past already. All that said, he now knows that Luke knows that he is his father, and that has to make a difference.
There's no resolution here. That's appropriate. That's realistic. What isn't realistic is for this story not to be addressed again--and I hope it will be.
JLA: Golden Perfect (10th TPB, 2003), Part 1 [Spoilers]
Includes JLA issues 61-65. First, a main story arc in which Wonder Woman, bearer of the magic lasso of truth and guardian of same, is faced with equal but conflicting truths, and the concept of truth itself begins to break down as a result. Second is a single-issue story featuring Plastic Man, which I'm going to discuss in a separate post, following this one.
I do have a couple of things I wanted to comment on specifically regarding this story. First is characterization. According to the splash page in the first included story, this issue introduced a new creative team to the book, and while the differences in Wonder Woman's behavior are directly plot-derived (and presumably will not last beyond the needs of the story), the changes in Plastic Man are not.
All right, Plastic Man has always* been portrayed as something of a dog. He has always been easily distracted by a pretty face or form, and he could definitely use a seminar on sexual harassment. He does some truly tacky things when he lets the wrong head lead:
So yeah, not an enlightened kind of guy. But he has generally not been presented as so hostile--he's certainly been portrayed as a sexist, but not, really, as a misogynist. Until now:
My theory is that this was build-up for an upcoming story--the one I'm discussing in the next post--in which he shows some pretty reprehensible behavior--I guess I'll figure out whether this is a good guess when I read the stories that come after that. It would also be arguable that this is an aspect of personality left over from the "old O'Brian"--the thug persona that comes to the fore in "Divided We Fall" when he is split into Plastic Man the hero and O'Brian the small-time crook--but if so I think the characterization fails.
Another thing that struck me with this storyline was Diana's lasso and just how it works. I was always under the impression that Wonder Woman's lasso brings out what people believe to be true, functioning as something of a lie-detector (regardless of why it works, that has been how it works). It appears to force people to tell the truth as they know it--as they believe it. After all, they can't tell what they don't know, and I don't recall ever having seen a scene where someone wrapped in the lasso suddenly has access to information they lacked previously. It can only draw out truth as filtered through the person. I may be mistaken here, but that's what seems to happen. And in that case, why is it that it's so confusing to Wonder Woman that the boy's mother and Rama Khan gemuinely believe two different yet contradictory things to be true? This can't be the first time she has encountered something like that. If the "truth" Diana finds via her lasso is subjective, you'd think she'd be used to it by now. I guess we put it down to unusual circumstances and the influence of her emotional state. Truth is a sticky concept at the best of times, so I'll be forgiving here.
:) But it's something to think about.
* "Always" as in throughout this run of JLA, I haven't seen him elsewhere.
Cool things:
I liked this very visual representation of a telepathic conference among the JLA members, in which apparently each individual's "appearance" is consistent with their inner self (or, possibly, their self-image)--Wonder Woman wearing her heritage as a chiton, wrapped up in her lasso (wrapped in the truth, so to speak), J'Onn of course in his native form, Superman combining his dual identities by wearing his cape over his farm work clothes, Flash in motion, Plastic Man fluid and impermanent, and Green Lantern, consciously heroic, in armor.
Things that made me laugh:
Flash's quick exit when faced with Green Lantern's impending crisis:
Batman multitasking while sparring with Wonder Woman:
Okay, I have tried and tried, and I have been totally unable to think of anything the Flash could have been planning to say next that would have been remotely appropriate for a married man...
I do have a couple of things I wanted to comment on specifically regarding this story. First is characterization. According to the splash page in the first included story, this issue introduced a new creative team to the book, and while the differences in Wonder Woman's behavior are directly plot-derived (and presumably will not last beyond the needs of the story), the changes in Plastic Man are not.
All right, Plastic Man has always* been portrayed as something of a dog. He has always been easily distracted by a pretty face or form, and he could definitely use a seminar on sexual harassment. He does some truly tacky things when he lets the wrong head lead:
So yeah, not an enlightened kind of guy. But he has generally not been presented as so hostile--he's certainly been portrayed as a sexist, but not, really, as a misogynist. Until now:
My theory is that this was build-up for an upcoming story--the one I'm discussing in the next post--in which he shows some pretty reprehensible behavior--I guess I'll figure out whether this is a good guess when I read the stories that come after that. It would also be arguable that this is an aspect of personality left over from the "old O'Brian"--the thug persona that comes to the fore in "Divided We Fall" when he is split into Plastic Man the hero and O'Brian the small-time crook--but if so I think the characterization fails.
Another thing that struck me with this storyline was Diana's lasso and just how it works. I was always under the impression that Wonder Woman's lasso brings out what people believe to be true, functioning as something of a lie-detector (regardless of why it works, that has been how it works). It appears to force people to tell the truth as they know it--as they believe it. After all, they can't tell what they don't know, and I don't recall ever having seen a scene where someone wrapped in the lasso suddenly has access to information they lacked previously. It can only draw out truth as filtered through the person. I may be mistaken here, but that's what seems to happen. And in that case, why is it that it's so confusing to Wonder Woman that the boy's mother and Rama Khan gemuinely believe two different yet contradictory things to be true? This can't be the first time she has encountered something like that. If the "truth" Diana finds via her lasso is subjective, you'd think she'd be used to it by now. I guess we put it down to unusual circumstances and the influence of her emotional state. Truth is a sticky concept at the best of times, so I'll be forgiving here.
:) But it's something to think about.
* "Always" as in throughout this run of JLA, I haven't seen him elsewhere.
Cool things:
I liked this very visual representation of a telepathic conference among the JLA members, in which apparently each individual's "appearance" is consistent with their inner self (or, possibly, their self-image)--Wonder Woman wearing her heritage as a chiton, wrapped up in her lasso (wrapped in the truth, so to speak), J'Onn of course in his native form, Superman combining his dual identities by wearing his cape over his farm work clothes, Flash in motion, Plastic Man fluid and impermanent, and Green Lantern, consciously heroic, in armor.
Things that made me laugh:
Flash's quick exit when faced with Green Lantern's impending crisis:
Batman multitasking while sparring with Wonder Woman:
Okay, I have tried and tried, and I have been totally unable to think of anything the Flash could have been planning to say next that would have been remotely appropriate for a married man...
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